Luke Watts

Revolutionising Cancer Care: A Conversation with Luke Watts - episode 228

Do you believe that we have the power to change the trajectory of our health? Can our choices truly make a difference in preventing and recovering from debilitating illnesses such as cancer? In this episode of “The Art of Living Proactively,” host Tony Winyard sits down with Luke Watts, a passionate advocate for revolutionising cancer care and empowering individuals to take control of their own health.

Guest Bio:
Luke Watts is no stranger to the devastating impact of cancer. Having lost loved ones to this formidable disease, Luke is driven to educate and inspire others to embrace a proactive approach to their health. His journey has led him to Camelaya, a holistic health centre, where he witnessed the transformative power of lifestyle interventions in combating chronic illnesses.

Action Steps and Call to Action:

In this episode, Luke Watts emphasises the importance of taking personal responsibility for our well-being.

He shares insights on how to make positive lifestyle choices that can help prevent and recover from cancer.

Here are some action steps you can implement today to start your proactive health journey:

1. Evaluate Your Lifestyle: Take a moment to assess your current habits, including diet, exercise, sleep patterns, and emotional well-being. Identify areas where improvements can be made to support your overall health.

2. Seek Support: Consider working with a health coach or joining a supportive community that aligns with your health goals. Embrace the power of accountability and guidance in making sustainable changes.

3. Prioritise Prevention: Take a proactive approach to your health by prioritising prevention over intervention. Invest in regular check-ups, screenings, and early detection methods to catch potential health concerns before they escalate.

4. Embrace Personal AGC: Adopt the mindset of Personal AGC (Agency, Growth, and Choice) and acknowledge your role in shaping your health outcomes. Empower yourself to take control of your well-being through informed choices and intentional actions.

Call to Action: If you’re ready to embrace a proactive approach to your health and revolutionise your well-being, explore the Tree of Life program that Luke mentions in the episode. This program offers educational modules and access to health coaches, providing a comprehensive foundation for personalised growth and improvement.

Key Topics:

  • Introduction to Luke Watts’s personal experiences with cancer and the importance of taking responsibility for one’s health
  • The impact of health coaching on cancer outcomes and the misconception of its value
  • The holistic approach to cancer care at Camelaya, focusing on lifestyle factors and supporting cancer patients
  • Adapting services to an online platform during the COVID-19 pandemic
  • The importance of lifestyle interventions in reducing long-term side effects and complications from cancer treatments
  • Lack of long-term care and support after cancer treatment in the NHS
  • The need for a shift towards prevention and recovery in the healthcare system
  • The speaker’s commitment to sharing their experiences and promoting a holistic approach to cancer treatment
  • Importance of community and rebuilding it for better health outcomes
  • Embracing realistic ways of dealing with health in the digital age
  • The Tree of Life programme and its aim to change perceptions of health coaching
  • The need for personal responsibility in healthcare and the role of education in the Tree of Life program
  • Comparisons to healthcare systems and cultures in other countries, emphasising individual responsibility and support
  • The impact of fast food, takeaway meals, and lack of cooking on overall health
  • Personal agency and the decline in health at a young age in the United States
  • Promoting a healthy lifestyle and the importance of going back to basics.

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Dr Suess’ take on this episode!

The Healing Tree of Light:

A Journey to Health and Delight
Once upon a time, in a land far away,
Lived a young boy named Tim with much to say.
He saw people’s lives impacted by cancer’s might,
And he yearned for a way to make things right.
One day, Tim met a wise man named Luke,
Whose experiences with cancer made him rebuke
The notion that we can’t take control,
And heal our bodies with choices we behold.
Luke knew that prevention was key,
To living a life that’s healthy and free.
He shared the story of a magical tree,
The Tree of Light that could help us all see.
With its branches so strong and its leaves so bright,
The Tree of Light offered a path to fight
The pain and struggles of cancer’s might,
And help us live a life that’s shining and pure white.
Luke spoke of a program, called the Cancer Coach,
A support system that truly approached
The recovery journey with care and love,
Guiding individuals from sky to sky above.
He emphasized the value of taking a stand,
Making choices that are grand,
For our bodies and minds, for the young and old,
Creating a future of health and gold.
From Camelaya to clinics worldwide,
The healing power of the Tree was spread wide.
Providing knowledge, tools, and care,
To reclaim health, beyond compare.
So, young Tim set on a journey to find,
The Tree of Light, so gentle and kind.
He learned to nourish his body with food,
To cherish his mind, and improve his mood.
He discovered the secrets of a balanced plate,
Filled with colorful fruits and veggies, so great.
He danced and he played, jumping so high,
Exercising his body beneath the blue sky.
With mindfulness and love, he learned to meditate,
Cleansing his spirit, erasing the weight.
He slept with peace, his dreams were serene,
Knowing tomorrow, he’d be an even brighter sheen.
And as the years went by, Tim grew tall,
Inspiring others, one and all.
Together, they formed a vibrant crew,
Harnessing the Tree of Light’s healing view.
In this world, where prevention reigns,
The children danced, free from aches and pains.
For the Tree of Light taught them, from dusk ’til dawn,
That choices we make can create a new dawn.
So remember, dear children, as you grow,
To care for your bodies, let your true selves show.
Embrace the power of the Tree of Light,
And live a life that’s healthy and bright.
The healing journey starts with you,
So make choices that will guide you through.
For in this beautiful world, we see,
We have the power to live proactively.
The End

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Tony Winyard [00:00:00]: Welcome to another edition of the art of living proactively. My guest today, Luke, what’s how are you, Luke? I’m very well. How are you? I’m doing well. And Like we were just saying, when we were discussing, we we’re having a conversation before the recording started. This is one at a few times of the year where the wherever where I am is the same as where we’re in the fabulous place where you live.

Luke Watts [00:00:22]: I absolutely understand. I don’t feel so guilty. You know where I’m traveling. sweet background, though, because people get it at a lot of sense in our trees. You know, right now, as you said, we’re actually sharing positive

Tony Winyard [00:00:32]: web wall stories. It’s really lovely. Yeah. So can you inform the listeners of where it is that you are?

Luke Watts [00:00:40]: Oh, okay. I’m on the little island. called Koh Samui, which is the Gulf of Thailand, and I’ve been coming to this island for nearly 20 years down. And — Yes. — it’s a very magical, very personal place for me is where I embarked on my understanding of an Asian point of view and way of life. and how their approach to articulating preventative medicine. I believe we could learn still continue now to learn a lot from when it comes to linguistic cultures. And I’m always amazed. I love to share when I do the best around it. The things that people told me about you and how easy it is to actually to do it. Yeah.

Tony Winyard [00:01:21]: So when you first went out there, what were you doing work wise when you first went there?

Luke Watts [00:01:26]: No. First went out there. I was the bad back and back. I was the guy, I read the beach, like Mother Beach had and went to the search. Oh, yeah. Doctor Colberg Anne, there’s been anybody who knows about those islands over here. And, yeah, just fell in love with it. I I hope one way that an opportunity presented itself, I wouldn’t be able to to move out here and It did 15 years again. And I came over here with the the intention to support health and well-being organization had been set up a a place down on the south that closed in the way and run by 21 with unions. And I was asked to, I guess, professionalize it once the better phrase, make sure that they also get paid. A lot of these files and medical retreats when they run by wonderful humans like like John and Korea around, then focus will be not necessarily the most savvy. I think a lot of these wonderful place sold because they probably didn’t have that available business incrementing to just make sure the bills get paid. And I’m greatly paid has been a small part in that, and it come to be it’s called Kamalayan, which has been going down on the south and has been going ever since and I think it’s regularly rated one of the best spots in Asia later in the year. Yeah. Yeah. Long time we got in there. And so I’m wondering how did

Tony Winyard [00:02:45]: So living in a place like that, how did the cancer coach come about?

Luke Watts [00:02:51]: Oh, yeah. So what’s steeping ahead, my experiences at Camelaya were that a lot of our illnesses, particularly in chronic illnesses. are related to lifestyle. And a lot of what came around with teaching and what they were in deliberate in terms of holistic practice. was getting us back to our low and more. The foods that we’re eating. So the exercise really holds quality of our sleep, how we assess strengths as emotional while we’re being. And then by having seen that work here in a variety around rooms. It’s also it also things like weight loss and diabetes and stress and bad now. I was approached by an American doctor You said that he would like me to come to violence, settle and retrieve focusing more more serious submissions. And would I be interested in helping him do that? And so we did that together around. He was working with equal cancer. And the cancer coach didn’t wasn’t gonna name the cancer coach. What it was there? Because people were traveling with from overseas to come and experience our treatment like galaxies. And parts of it there, actually, 70% of the title sent with us was actually workshops, and they could make their own breakfast lunch and dinner under the supervision of the dying’s issue. They would have access to personal training, reach to them where they are at. in their physical capability. They have access to mindfulness practice of two three times that every day, etcetera, etcetera. So the cancer coverage was really our master care program. It was now that you’re made max to your country. Now you made max to your environment. how often we help Safari, you remember what you just learned, which under the bubble of our center made our way on by by easy to be compliant. But then when you’re trying to transfer that back home, so it can set no chill or outpace, we would love to be ours. was essentially help coaching for people as they return back to applying what they had learned with us. And we did that very successfully, and we felt that the outcomes of our treatments was greatly enhanced by that very comprehensive article. So when Claudio did x and people cannot travel to our treatment centers anymore, we we position in that service to be one of if you can’t come to us, how can we get over this information to you once you’re in your country margin, where maybe you are going down the key mode rate, you’re searching a privilege. So it became one of treatment support and aftercare where we would be looking at lifestyle interventions that could reduce cyberbacks, and long term side effects from treatments, complications, treatments from ADN and recovery, and then into sort of machine and aftercare how to build a long sustainable way online that has been shown to help and assist people in long term recovery. And We have learned that easy to move once you finish cancer treatment. You are very susceptible to other chronic illnesses and living practices. I believe it’s six times more — Right. — the risk is now six times greater after answers. And then you’ve obviously added currents and the build of the drone. So the cancer coach was essentially a product that we do it for a very long time under a slight different positioning, but then we can’t pay full products and service that we have delivered during COVID times. to help people who could not travel and get access to our budget and stream. Yeah. That’s that was it. It was getting great.

Tony Winyard [00:06:40]: It’s it seems to have really grown recently, and it’s not just it’s it’s in quite a few countries around the world, isn’t it?

Luke Watts [00:06:47]: Yeah. I think we’re in 11 right now. I believe it’s expansions. Yeah. It’s it’s doing very well. And there is no boundary. Cancer does not discriminate between your way of forming the world and your authenticity, and it doesn’t. So there’s no reason why the approach that we have in our cancer centers could not be deployed anywhere. Language and cultural sensitivities have understand being taught certain lifestyles would have to be integrated into the program. But apart from there, the core message are eating well exercising the move of regularly, hopefully, with stress insight and depression, getting good quality be universal.

Tony Winyard [00:07:33]: Mhmm. Obviously, what would you say? And you’ve touched upon it already, but the biggest difference is between your approach to helping people cancer and the typical from an England perspective, DNA approach, how does it differ?

Luke Watts [00:07:47]: I think the NHS is overburdened. I think we can say that quite comfortably without upsetting anybody. And I think that focus is very much on the intervention side things at the point of diagnosis. Where the cancer carriage cannot have a tremendous support and value to anybody who’s going through answer. Or let me take a step back. Anybody who is experiencing chronic illness or a reduced quality of life, so prevention. couldn’t bet a bit on working with our approach to how we encourage you. Prevention is always better than sure. And even though it might not top of mind for lots people is they are currently being with an ailment that can be treated in the version of Commerce Pharmaceutical. And I’m saying that, and they’re not we’re being disrespectful, but quite often, the pharmaceutical approach is getting the symptoms. based dealing with people that have symptoms of chronic disease, not necessarily the root causes. So health coaching in my opinion couldn’t book and the amazing way that DNA tests are is by giving people an opportunity to prevent the onset cancer by intratheon that would cause some of those lifestyle issues that are not giving them challenges right now are which is to make more as you invite. Mhmm. And on the other side, whilst treatment has been completed, in the NHS again because of the resources of their disposal. There isn’t a long term continuum of care strategy. So once somebody has left, it’s not uncommon. And it sounds very supportive, but it’s not uncommon for someone in the oncology team was to say something like go back to your own way of, like, we’ll go back to your normal life as much as possible. You’ll see in 3 to 6 months. Now anybody who has decided to understand or learn that will have a lifestyle based upon its fantasies, not the best advice. And there’s very disrespect to the oncologist down and have the training. But where the our health coach is in our tremendous value, is to be picking up those feet long at that cliff edge or when the streams are finished. And this one took on a little bit of connotonic we’ve been indulged with is quite common, I’ve heard and I’ve read and people have explained to me that at a point in mistreatment finishes is a really emotional, almost a use of word trauma, advice,ly, not only in in in in in some medical sense. it’s just a very overwhelming experience. Because up until that point, quite often, from the moment of diagnosis, they’re straight into a treatment, which And therefore, that everything is described, everything is done. And quite often, that person hasn’t had a chance to process what is happening to them. They’re very much focusing of what’s happening now. Mhmm. So and the point in which treatment finishes and all of those scheduled appointments start to dissipate And that support circle of family and friends who’ve been with you actually back to — Go back to their lives. At that point, you as an individual, really want vulnerable. But there really is, as far as I can see in the UK, very little support for that person. Even though it’s a mental spiritual perspective, mental ichthyological part. So the viral approach to the calculation with cancer adds tremendous bandwidth if it could be supported in a way that he face treatment. And we’re talking 360,000 new cases a year in the UK right now. That’s a lot of people that could be picked up our street magnet and offered, you know, our approach now.

Tony Winyard [00:11:31]: Is it harder to get people in the UK to I guess what’s going through my mind is in in the US and many other countries, people are used to paying for health. But in the UK, there’s this approach where everything should be free free because of the NHS. So therefore, getting people to accept something like the cancer coach, is it more difficult in the UK?

Luke Watts [00:11:52]: I think you’re right. I think you’re absolutely right. There is a culture in our country that helps send it. It’s it’s contributed by attacks and is there more than 84. And when we get sick, we can go to these places, and we can be treats secured. And you’re right. Basically, like the US and other countries, there is more of a union between the individuals just facility for their own health. They’re willing to pay more special services and knows that they get their insurance for buyers. Yes. So the cancer coach as a stand alone program where an individual works with an experienced health coach on a one to one basis and is painful out of. It is not that popular in the UK, which needs on 3 of mine, which I’m sure we’re gonna be talking about. And the reasons are behind why we change I feel like I’m the site director of talk. But, you know, I think it’s a — Yeah. But, yeah, our new programmer is in in some respects, Asian radars. has been really influenced by the fact that people aren’t willing to necessarily pay in the UK and, yeah, It is a real big problem. You’re saying every 90 seconds, I believe, the statistic is right now. some of the scientists. And yet, the w Asia have consistently reported that 30 to 50% of all cancers are completely involved. with the banks lifestyle. Yes. There’s a lot of work for us to be done, and it just require a bit of a culture shared. I think the pandemic has made people aware in the UK a little bit more that they need to say a bit more responsibility for their own health and well-being because the NHS is overwhelmed. and continuing to spend is not gonna be the answer. I think it’s referred as personal AGC. taking a little bit more responsibility for ourselves. Hang on.

Tony Winyard [00:13:52]: You set us up on the true of life. So tell us more about that.

Luke Watts [00:13:56]: Yeah. So training online is a online on demand program online program that is an education led clinically approved approach to health and well-being in the way of disease prevention, support, and recovery. make answer perspective, we are providing individuals with an opportunity to access

Tony Winyard [00:14:20]: 7

Luke Watts [00:14:22]: very well crafted modules of education that you go through your own pace. And within all of that, scope. There are additional resources that you have access to. You can reach out to speak to health coaches if you need anything explaining to your what that we are talking about new or how is that applicable applicable to me and how I could actually make that part of my new way on life. We’re very excited about it. It is available now. It was released about a week ago to the general public. And yes. So where where the cancer coach is a direct relationship between coach and an agent or client, which has suggested to be a bit of a cost variant. What we’ve done with the 3 of life is to almost invert that relationship. So as a member of the tree of life is fine, you get access to all of this education step by step, right, in terms of how do I process my emotions and stress? How do I look at a more a mess dangerous diet. In more effective, clean libido diet, how do I exercise and enrich my lifestyle? How do I do all those things that we’ve been talking about. And then screwing the program, if you want to then reach out to the hell a coach, then that opportunity exist. So we’re hoping that the entry latency will be there’ll be far many. Our volume doing it because the cost to entry is on what? No. We’re then actually working directly 1 on 1 with the health coach. And when we talk about if you don’t mind saying when we talk about People say, health coaching is expensive or people choose not to work with the health coaching UK here. This is the money. I think if you’re diagnosed with something like cancer, and somebody is there to say, I can help you navigate this in the best possible way and make it as as, you know, make that this process of recovery a lot easier for you. Mhmm. Then to find the money for a health coach is a lot can be done. So it’s not a caustic. health coaching in the UK is we don’t perceive the value. We have a problem with attributing value to help achieve. And I’ll give you one example because I have a business pension in the UK, and he does not blink twice, charging you 200, particularly 1000 out of that. for a business coaching session. Mhmm. But health coaches in the UK typically are being charged, you know, 50, 60, 70, 80 pounds an hour. And I’ve sent this to my business coach. My health coach is who I work with, and we pay a lot more than that buyers would pay. We like to try we’ll try to book the training now. I’m trying to show you that view. But, you know, in my health coach, silently, in my opinion, invest more in their education to get to the point that they are at — Mhmm. — than you have as a distance coach It’s just the set — Yeah. — that you are valued at £250 an hour, and the health coach is only £70 an hour. Our job And me and I, you know, see, with our conversation, we need to change people’s perception on the the tree value of health care and ship. And I think 3 or 5, the numbers that it’s gonna be able to attract, and demand populations are being written work quicker as we reduce because the entry is going to allow us over time to show how the current sheet works, and it is contributing to population health. And I’m very excited about that. I think it’s finished as you play the results.

Tony Winyard [00:17:57]: You mentioned that you’re working in 11 countries. How is there much of a difference in people’s perception and reaction to health coaches in all those different places?

Luke Watts [00:18:09]: That’s a really good question. I said that at one end of the spectrum, you’ve got the states where professional coaching is a discipline that is well rooted and people actively seek it. We’re talking coaching, but this could be, like, personal training, business coaching, or voice coaching, or relationship advice, coaching. The the actual idea of aids professional to improve your way on life or your outcomes is more ingrained. So in the sense they have a very active participation. And they’re they’re very engaged in the process. They understand the to weight relationship of this coach is not telling me what to do. They’re giving me opportunities to do. and then still up to me to actually give it a go and report back on what I found was too early bad and genuine exciting. So So just for the concept that the idea of having a professional tone, it’s more ingrained in the same in the UK. The UK perhaps is the other end of the spectrum when it comes to the western world. And my fact, I’m sure people might disagree. But just in my experience, to say the UK with the NHS, which is a wonderful institution, has in some way. And I’m gonna say it. So people will call you Maybe I’m mad at this. And I am speaking to quite influential people in the in the UK. In some regards, the NHS is an enabler. of bad behavior — Uh-huh. — because it has this actual when things go wrong. Is it my personal view? Like, because the NHS is And I don’t believe, but when I read and I read a lot about biggest studio in chess, I don’t believe when it was conceived Where we’re using now was is the attempted conception. Right. You know, it was an accident and emergency at the point of need. It wasn’t that I don’t need to cover what it’s covering in my — Right. — but culturally speaking. as I said, because we don’t have a I don’t have a cause and effect in the regional responsibility of our own The NHS is you know, it has attributed to this culture just keep going until things go wrong, and then go and see your GP. Right. Yeah. And then in the middle, you’ve got country cycles Australia. which have been the hybrid system, a little bit probably, a little bit behind it. And, also, the employers take a lot more responsibility in Australia for their employees the. So they’re actively contributing. Singapore. I love it more towards the states. Mhmm. In terms of household AG6. I think the culture of people in Singapore is unique on on on its verifying out to be really optimal human being and committing. There’s no surprise as to the best education institutions in the world. Mauricio, for a country that isn’t same time. It has it has invested in its population, it’s less than its people, and it’s come out to be a leader. in in the world for that. Canada, living in UK, living in the city. So yeah. It’s really a good question. It’s but I do feel the tide in as I said, I do feel being COVID and the unbearable strain. And I was reading recently, now in the UK, being my say, no. it might take another 5 years in order to to be in a backlog of of of, you know, including cancer. So at the end of the day, I think we have to take more responsibility for ourselves. And if you are interested in doing that, sunlight, the tree of light, light, the tree of light is a really good way to start. The way we break in each mulching down the way we’ve we’ve explained it set by Zenn, the way that we give access to the professionals as we want them And the other feature you have emerged is a community as the number of tree of line. You can access other members in the program. So you can share your own story and and support from one another. This isn’t a unique concept, Tony. This weight watchers people in the UK listen to this. They’ll go, oh, it’s like weight watching, but digital. It is. It’s like avonholics anonymous. It’s like noncontents anonymous. these programs scheme of themselves are not perfect. There are problems with things like AA and NA, but they are not doctors medicine. But what they are very successful at doing, and that’s what we wanna do in 3 of mine is they bring together a consistent community up people that are being more of the same thing. Mhmm. So our colleagues are not in most of the surprise. It’s in white watches. It’s loose in white. it reapplied. It’s about a doctor in the way of mine. It’s just how I’m thinking about in terms of preventing disease, getting overcoming disease, and they’ve been resilient. it’s easy to delete. So, yeah, it’s not a unique concept. And I guess the way the package data makes it very unique, and I’m very powerful.

Tony Winyard [00:23:26]: There’s a lot of studies in the last few years about the power of community, isn’t it?

Luke Watts [00:23:31]: Yes. Absolutely right. Absolutely, Amber. This is a really good book south at the moment. I forget the name. I don’t know if she makes it as face of the states. But he talks about it.

Tony Winyard [00:23:42]: James Maskell?

Luke Watts [00:23:45]: I know to speak. That’s what we were talking about, but I love the people. which is anyone’s listening to Biden Sixty the due, and the Ashes is about to start in 7 minutes. That’s how mixed I am. to Tony and his podcast. So I’m missing the first ball of the Ashes to do this interview, which is all good. Yeah. Him and others who have forged a conversation that and, again, I don’t I don’t want to dismiss what they are in our shadow. but this isn’t merely. They’re they’re on phrases like it takes a village to raise a child. Right. This is the if anything, we’re always trying to wind back some of the areas of community now that we knew weren’t. And I need to stress for those who don’t already know. Now I’m not edict and trained. It’s not my background. And so whatever I say, it’s not something that anyone’s listened to here and to run with it, But what I can do is share my experiences as somebody’s published for a very long time. And I remember as a child, but I don’t even notice policy. But we used to have chicken pox parts. I don’t know if you had one of those times. If a kid on the street, our chicken pox would all be around to this guy’s house. And we’ll normally expect it to catch Chickenbox so that we could get over it and move on. Right? And I don’t know. There’s just something in that So I lost it. I lost 4 of immunity health, 41 in our realm. Yeah. And I guess, 3 of life is trying to embrace that, but in a more realistic way and embracing the digital aspect, the way that we get out learn of And that I guess what we created as well is a code equals program. It is you know, something behind this app ever happens again through your mind. We always say no more windows. It is a 100% remotely driven. So I guess that’s also something to consider is the the way our world did is most people are in a rebound that something like COVID or maybe even another strain of it could happen again. And so we’re aiming to make sure now Yeah. I don’t wanna get into those theories on that. I mean, a lot of people are saying, yeah, these kind of epidemics, pandemics, are gonna happen a little bit more regularly, and that is essential that there are those services, including ours, that do not overlap when there’s kind of things happening. This is a 100% online program that has, as I said, access to professionals and other NPS so that we would we’ll say the we we target for another podcast. Yeah.

Tony Winyard [00:26:29]: What I’ve seen you speak in a in a couple of webinars over the last few months. And I was really impressed by how passionate you are about what you speak about. And I wonder why What why do you think he is? He becomes so passionate, a person?

Luke Watts [00:26:43]: I guess, with a cancer perspective is that I’ve seen what we’ve done. So I’ve seen the disease. I’ve lost people. I’m sure I lost people listening to this. I’ve lost people. I’m sure I lost people listening to this. I’ve lost people. It is a very big waste disease and in terms of how you see the people get this relates and and sometimes maybe quickly from what they worked know, excluding what what what they are on with us. So I’ve lost some other people to that. I’ve seen and I’ve read that a lot of have to say that are preventable. Then we do have a power in ourselves to take more responsibility. And to all of a sudden, the destination. Like, red or moths, and I’ve seen the response of epigenetics as opposed to genetics. And, again, feeling how much by that. The only thing I can do other. Yeah. And then at least from the cat searching the space. See, I’ve seen how health coaching can be the difference between somebody who’s gonna go into a treatment asset passenger and just see what happens. And those who have a more introspective point of view on what’s happened. And this and our encouraged to do something, then without that health coach, right, Austin, most good intentions say materialize. Mhmm. So I’m extremely anxious. I’ve seen it. I don’t think that kind of sums you that was best. I can I’ve seen the effects of the work that you’d love. You do another’s in health coaching. And, yeah, I I just seeing lounge and barbed, and just I’ve just heard people on this. It is. It’s a wonderful display. And tree of light, just bringing that to that. is an extension of that action because I know people can afford health coaching. They just don’t understand the value. So what we can encourage you to try to be aligned because very low entry point cost lines and also the commitment lines. and you get to meet some of the health coaches on your online journey, then you will understand the value proposition better. and you’re they’re going to engage in those services. Yeah. And so yeah.

Tony Winyard [00:28:57]: And something else you’re you’re passionate about is your and you’ve already touched upon few of the things you said, but your views — I don’t mind. I’ll talk very quick. Your views on being proactive and about how important it is to be proactive.

Luke Watts [00:29:13]: It is. And I think I will say to be mine of such a few people, but I think that a lot of this isn’t sleepwalking when comes as a way of where they influence to live our lives. It is easy to listen to these messages that come from me that marketing or or governmentals. Basically, anyone that has an an interest, and it’s easy to go along with Orion and to eat the food they love us to eat and be lethargic and to I’ll share one story if I may. So I was invited earlier this year, and I talked to Brandon Mike Lewis of the city. and is super stressed. You just get much sleep complaining about his health conditions. He knows what I do. I think we go to a restaurant and ask the waiter. We we’ll just take note of all those. And he says, oh, is this item gluten free? And I looked at him. I said, well, why? This is all I’ve got this kind of tolerance to to. I said, but I ended up okay, which is fine. I understand that. that you allow yourself to become tolerant to lack of sleep, lack of exercise, constant stress, eating rad, and dealing with the gut health issues and the toilet issues, how don’t we get discussion on your podcast? If you’ve allowed us to be tolerant. All of these things are making you less than optimal. Right. And you’ve decided upon yourself to ask this way to this mirrorless to you as it includes break. That just seems a real big disconnect from me, then we have grown tolerance. to so many more pressing issues in line — Right. — and even tolerance to something as benign has gluten that we had in our eyes for millennia. We’ve eaten bread quite a long time. I know what they said. I’m not a doctor. I’m not a dietitian. I don’t want you to get upset with what I just said. Take so what I just said is a message. then we got regardless of the glutamate, just that this person took it among itself to focus on that part rather than all the other areas of life that he has decided to speak on tolerance to. So, yes, the allotting personal agency. There’s a lot People need to be woken up that this is the way that they had their sleep walking into a pharmacological disease can it’s not healthcare. It’s disease can weigh online. And I was reading it somewhere recently, Tiger, that Lillian’s a wonderful chart. I actually put it on my link, I’m sure, a few months ago that I found that had on the X Axis and the vertical Sorry. Now the x axis on the horizontal was the a which was the n h of the person. And the y axis on the vertical was essentially, like, their buying talent, you know, energy levels there. And on this chart, it was from the United States. And what we saw was that the health and relative health of that has he almost dropped off the cliff at the age of thirty seven. and it was suggesting that a lot of health conditions are hitting me to see if I let the agent go to 7. Mhmm. Now you and I, or a little build few years old, they’re not very selling. And it breaks my heart that these young are leading. and aren’t having search, drop off, equality of love, and such a young man. Yeah. And I like to think the tree of like another people in order to do. We should be trying to keep that line as horizontal as possible or as long as we can. So not let the line drop 37 head down to what’s the possible to grow. We’re trying to keep that line as long as we can. And then when we’re now eighties nineties, then let it drop. Let us die. Let us die in us, whatever it is. And I think and the evidence says that it’s all possible. Right. But if you wanna do it, I mean, when you don’t have to be here, Tony, and this people think, I’m sure we both have in our lives. We have a very fundamental approach to life. You must do it. It’s to have my way of life. really hanging. There’s silly little things. Like, I feel like a very good thing in your podcast. But my man would say to me, never needs anything that needs advertise it. Now I see you do stand at the supermarket. Next time you go, and before you walk through that door, just challenge yourself, not to buy anything in a supermarket that needs advertising. Your whole experience in that supermarket will condiment and change. Yeah. Now that’s like streaming, isn’t it? I’m not telling you to eat a salary, salary, but — No. — just don’t need anything that needs input. I don’t remember a piece of Rockley ever being advertised during football. So just have a different new online. Mhmm. And I think it’s not extreme. It’s always kind of going back to basics. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. I’m getting passionate about being passionate. That seems a bit messed up. Alright. So

Tony Winyard [00:34:18]: if things are all when a teacher plan in in an ideal world, how would you like to see the history of life in, say, 5 years time?

Luke Watts [00:34:27]: That’s a really great question. I think and and we’re talking about the UK. Right? That’s obviously — I know some maybe throughout the countries as well because this podcast goes out in in many other countries as well. Oh, wonderful. Okay. Let let me let me do a UK 1, and then because I think this probably where where it’s gonna be probably most challenging as we’ve mentioned or And there are — I’ll I’ll paint another picture. So in light of the the NHS, it’s like a monolayer. It’s a single line with this huge bullet train on the top of it, and this bullet train is getting heavier and faster. It’s having to get faster and faster. And that rail is is gonna be weaker, and then he’s having to travel further and further about that, and he’s having to cover more and more carriages. It’s a single rate. That’s where we’re simply going. And what I would like the tree to be able to do in one and the health coaches with the cancer coach is to strongly suggest that monorail should actually be a jewel rail like a tree extract, where each rail is equally important. It’s equally straightforward. But one rail is dedicated to intervention, and one rail is dedicated to prevention and recovery. And the sleepers are the integrative integrations of our health and well-being. Right. So it’s the rail of prevention and recovery. is more around personal agency and taking responsibility for your own actions. And that will reduce the burden. on the other rail that needs to be there still intervention. And I’m just wanting to clear something up. If I remember you all do an accident, God forbid, if I have a car accident, I don’t want somebody giving me essential oils. Right? I just make that point. I want the serious stuff with the series. But if I find in the line, Harry, that you’ve got issues or things that just do a deal well work, I just I don’t feel like I’m having a good sleep. I don’t want to be misfiring the sleeping pill. Right. I wanna look at the root causes of why am I not sleep? Is it because My diet is not raining. I mean, if I have a tree boos or caffeine rig boos. If one goes to bed or my mind is not restful, or I have too many electronics in my bedroom. I want that other line of the rain. to be all me, and that’s where the health care tutor supports, pension, recovery medicine really should be. That’s what I’d like to say. And I guess, by extension worldwide, I would like from a tree of light cancer code for people to understand and recognize the importance of health chemistry. and that we do not have to sleep into these ever increasing risks of cancer incidents. you know, we can’t rely on spending more and more money on the research of the treatment. Let’s commit some funds into the pension. let’s consider areas that we know can have that are detrimental to people as well be and let’s see if we can correct that. And it will lead the intervention by all phases. It’s going to be the element to buy into this. We’re students ourselves to buying into this culture. As I said, wake up and realize let’s do something more so. I I it’s gonna upset people. The rooted industry farming industries. That can be very upset if we start talking about processed foods and food time sugars and dangerous fats and dangerous salts. And what’s the inevitable what’s the alternative time? Yeah. We that that quotation now on 300 and 60 thousand new cases cancer every year right now. That same organizing one of those numbers are also same. We can go over to 500,000 every year in the UK by 2040. Right. So you can’t tell me that the state to slow is the way to go. I mean, you know, there’s a bit of a bug. But it it can’t right? Because they’re all in complete conditioning as to say. Oh, man. And we’re gonna get to our familiar. And, therefore, police don’t make money, so we can do more research into treatment. No. How about looking at that a 140,000 growth? Let alone the 360 have put they’re already dead. Let’s see if we can revisit some of that one formality. Right? That’s my point. That’s where I’d like to see 3 of, like, health care and share change in the conversation that recovery prevention and recovery is the way to reverse these spheres, not merely research and money in 3 main objects, but it takes us as well. We need to say a response stories.

Tony Winyard [00:38:57]: you talked about the education element with a tree of life. And so I wonder, are you aware of any countries who As far as education is concerned, actually instill this in children’s education about being proactive around health.

Luke Watts [00:39:14]: That’s a really great question. I don’t know any specifically. I can tell you from a aisha in Thailand And Southeast Asia until recently, where the family dynamic was grandma parents, kids, all under the same would be. Mhmm. And grandma and their unwind taken on more of the responsibilities of cooking, for example. and she would be making sure that with abortion sciences were appropriate to the whole family. Right. That that was better. And then they did have to because he’s making some time at the game as well. And then we move from next to this culture where, you know, to the final to, you know, medium to the distance there. You don’t even see fast food now. You don’t eat too many waitrose. I mean, you’re okay. You’ve got them giving meals bags and and things like that. And and, again, without going too much down the road road here. Out of which consumer is there has fueled the fact that mom and dad now makes an old down single time jobs. in order to maintain this what we think is a better way of mine. As soon as you do that, you have to just do all of that does restrict what you can do at Moe. And I was the I’ve read so much by recently that in in in lockdown, we are spending on average less than 3 let us stay in week airing other than meetings. Right. But we spent 5 hours of really trolling social media commenting on other people’s, videos. Right. I’m at a really long — Mhmm. — there is a name. Yeah. So the answer to your question is probably not as much as it should be. I know in the UK, we met a couple of storms with the — all of this stuff for the India and that was it for a decade ago. Mhmm. That was it. Yes. I think it’s the intervention of kids. Dixie is a more evolving what their food is. that’s the source, not necessarily as a cleaned up piece of chicken breast at the supermarket. Actually, getting the reports that they know. They’re still using these and try and get them engaged in having their own videos. I can update my likes to to start. Yeah.

Tony Winyard [00:41:21]: time’s moving on. So be before we before we finish, is there a question I always ask everyone? And I love the answers I get to this. So is there a book that’s really moved you for any reason and why?

Luke Watts [00:41:32]: I’m recently in the last three months, I we read 1984, and this will be, I think, the 4th time I played since I was introducing at school. And every time you read it, you can’t see it through the lens of where we are right now in modern culture. Mhmm. And it continues to amaze me that when I read that book, And we talk about Sweden. We talk about influencer, our big brother, essentially. And and the background, you know, we we have a more drone like existence. But anytime I read that, I do feel more and more that is relevant. And and for you, we have to look out for those, like, the protagonist characters in the book in try and shake it out. I think it’s all upon us that we don’t have to go down this path of being added to complexity to those on red 1984. You really didn’t mean to. I found out there’s there’s a shocking installment, and it’s it’s true. I think it was written in the 30th, wasn’t it? So, originally, that is yeah. So he’s got it. Yeah. Can we eighty ninety nine to years old? Yeah. I’m still relevant, man. So, yeah, nineteen eighty four. raising, boy.

Tony Winyard [00:42:43]: So if we wanna find out more about a cancer coach, the true of life, where would they go?

Luke Watts [00:42:49]: Really simple. That cancer coach start. I mean, we we did a new website, got released a few weeks ago where we thought of what we’re doing as the cancer products and services, the health care cheer, and we wanna assess what the cheer of life there. So it’s all consolidated on one website the, and you can get access to everything. Tree of light right now is and you can register for free. And if you register for free mind now, you get access to the first module to complete the program of what content of module 1, and all the other features that we spoke in Mount Access community, access to the resources. So that’s completely free right now, and I think it’s double checking. I’m pretty sure if you wanted to continue tree of my journey, and, for example, your modules, we are I think we’ve been in, like, 20,000 a month, which is we think it’s very I was saying, very, very I I know it’d be times of top of the mind only, but we genuinely genuinely believe there is a very good value for those £22 1. And, obviously, you just keep the subscription, I think, as well as she needs to say. You could blast through the content in the background, I guess. If you really want to recommend it, I guess, So, yeah, it is a very, as I said, we separate course, very financially friendly way to engage in in this conversation. All the responsibility

Tony Winyard [00:44:10]: camps. And is that open to anyone anywhere in the world?

Luke Watts [00:44:15]: It is — Yeah. — they can — Yeah. — jump to the website, and you have a true live set and just click on the button. You could access it as a web based platform where you need a laptop, or you can download our app and accessing on your own multiple assembly.

Tony Winyard [00:44:32]: Just before we finish, is there anything around the cancer coach or tree of life that I haven’t asked you to maybe you think it would be useful for people to know.

Luke Watts [00:44:42]: I would say that the amount of work that’s going creating the curriculum in the program. Anybody who has ever been curious about the long lived stalling chronic disease? if they’re taking a problem themselves and to give a sub dot to Google and find incredibly overwhelming and contradicting his reign — Mhmm. A lot of high expert money resources has gone into making sure that the program bill is noncollege things with that it is backed up by the relevant sources has been overseen by experts in oncology, behavioral sciences, We’ve had cancer ad bifoceri groups, survivors, health coaches, goes through the program in real fine detail And the program is not going to cure cancer. It goes without saying it’s there as, you know, creating baseline are resources that allows people to engage with as much as they model and to put into their day to day lives. But the program itself is, you know, it’s a wonderful series that the hands be dealt with that are absolutely best of intentions. and we’re very confident it’s gonna be successful. So anyone’s curious about the long term to see and of lifestyle and the violence and disease including not just cancer. A lot of metabolic based diseases will also be influenced by the tree of microgram. So heart disease, diabetes, some of the immune conditions, obesity, asthma, a lot of these conditions can also be improved upon by by working with the interior line. And I think that’s that important distinction is about it.

Tony Winyard [00:46:20]: Finally, Luke, so I can let you go back and watch the the Ashes. What is do you have a a quotation that you particularly like?

Luke Watts [00:46:28]: I do. It is don’t let the fact sheet get in the way of progress. it works on so many levels. But, essentially, like, what we’re talking about with a a way of, like, change his top. And I’ve seen a lot of people not being able to maintain it because they were not able to complete it. to their perception of perfection. Right. And, really, just continuing here that constant consistency is far better for you in small, sustainable steps than trying to aid for perfection. And don’t, as I said, don’t let you know, the aim of protection, giving away the progress that you’re all like. Minus into this podcast, you’re thinking a small step because you’re Tillies. You’re interested to know what this time in time I was talking about. Just, yeah, don’t actually, anyway, very best.

Tony Winyard [00:47:26]: Thank you, Luke. But this is gonna come out in a couple of weeks’ time. So by the time you hear this, you will know the result of the Ashes or anyone missing it.

Luke Watts [00:47:33]: And that’s that’s 3 to 4 yards. I might need to follow-up if we want.

Tony Winyard [00:47:40]: Luke, thank you for your time. It’s been fantastic.